Sunday, February 15, 2015

The End

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Wednesday, January 21, 2015

Church Of Disgust

Church Of Disgust - S/T Demo
Church Of Disgust are from San Marcos Texas and play down and dirty Death Metal, the way it was meant to be played. This is their first demo and they offer up three songs for you here. The tape was limited to 50 copies and is long gone, but you can find the songs on their bandcamp page. I couldn’t find much other info on the band other than a facebook, but it looks like they have an ep and full length out since putting this demo out. 

Tuesday, December 31, 2013

Some record came out in 2013

Everyone and their mother is making top records of the year lists. I made a list this year (just like every other time I've done this) of albums I think people should hear. Some of them you'll find on alot of lists and some you'll have never heard of. Check them out because you love music not because they gained hype online. So without further ado here are 10 records that came out in 2013 that you should check out:

Backslider - Consequences 10"
Six Weeks Records put this monster 10" out and it doesn't disappoint. Backslider use these 7 songs to show you that they're not just another "all go no slow" type powerviolence band by adding depth and length to their songwriting. You can hear a wide range of influences from hard rock to noise rock to metal. Backslider has again shown why they belong among the top of the pack with bands like Lack Of Interest, etc.

Bad Doctors - Reanimate EP & Spit It Out b/w Twilight Of The Idols
These guys have been playing around Philadelphia for a while now, and are finally getting some recognition. Most people will describe them as "that band that sounds like Devo", but I think thats doing them nd yourself  disservice. There is alot more to their music than that taking influences from The Smiths, Joy Division, The GoGos, and more. To paraphrase, someone once said that the great thing about Bad Doctors is that their song could start out as a pop punk song but end in electronic bilps and bleeps. "They create a space for your mind to wander, while keeping you grounded by the thumping beat."
Contact the BAND directly or try FDH Records

Culo - My Life Sucks And I Could Care Less
Culo have put out the best record of the year. That really says it all. You'll find this record on a bunch of top lists this year. A solid punk record all around delving into new wave and hardcore at times. This record is an instant classic. If you like hardcore punk you should already own this, dummy.

Femacoffin - Demo 2013
I came across this band while looking for the Dead Pressure demo. Femacoffin has members of Stormcrow and Sanctum both of which I really liked so I decided to check this out. For fans of Bolt Thrower, Deviated Instinct, Warmaster, etc.
BUY on their bandcamp below

Hivelords - Cavern Apothecary
This band kind of snuck up on me. Actually I guess more accuratly is I never really gave this band a chance. I've been aware of Hivelords for about 2 years now. I've been to shows they've played, and have even booked them and still I couldn't tell you what they really sound like other than saying doomy black sludge metal. Anthropic Records put out their LP in July, and this is their media description of the band. "Hivelords are blackened psychedelic sludge from Philadelphia. Experiencing Hivelords is much like watching an 111 year old tree getting uprooted from the earth. A windstorm of punishing riffs. Your heart pounding to ritualistic drums, and a vocalist, standing upon his alter, conjuring spirits to rip and tear the roots from your lifeless and monotonous existence." After reading this and the fact that they were getting ready to go on tour with my buddies' band Sadgiqacea, I checked it out. I listened to it a few times then put it away. What made it end up on my list is the fact that I kept pulling it off the shelf and going back to listen again. Songs ebbing and flowing in my brain, getting stuck in there. Humming parts over and over again. They are not just a band, they're a force to be reckoned with. Hivelords have written a great record that deserves every metal fan's attention.
BUY HERE or on their bandcamp below

Magic Circle - S/T
I became aware of this through Armageddon Records. A Black Sabbath esque doom band played by members of Rival Mob, Boston Strangler, Mind Eraser, Righteous Jams, Doomriders, and more..... I'm in! It was either going to be laughable or awesome. I'm happy to say its is indeed pretty awesome. I couldn't find a website or anything for the band, but I did find several Youtube videos. Here is thier LP.

Nervosas - S/T
I think it was Razorcake that said Nervosas were "Like if Wipers, X, and Dead Moon were somehow one band". Thats a pretty good description actually. Part punk, part death rock, part post punk this band will appeal to people into a bunch of genres.

No Statik - Unity And Fragmentation
This record came out late in the year, but quickly made a spot on my list. I was already a fan and was looking forward to their next record. If you're into hardcore punk, and don't know who No Statik is by now you must be living under a rock. Members of blah blah blah, this band deserves to stand on its own merits, and proves they can with their live show. Don't be a blockhead.... make sure you check this band out.
BUY HERE or on the bandcamp below

Primitive Hearts - High & Tight
Primitive Hearts come from Oakland, Ca. I am also orginally from Oakland and asked my friends about this band. Alot of them had heard of the band but never heard them. I was curious when Philadelphia label FDH (who I've become a pretty big fan of) put this out. I checked it out and fell in love pretty much immediately. Their bandcamp description is "punk garage garage punk powerpop rock'n'roll Oakland" so you get the idea. The song Fallig Apart has made its way on every mixtape I've made this year.

Sadgiqacea - Flase Prisim
Sadgiqacea has been kicking around Philadelphia for a while now. I'm not really sure on how to describe them, but I've heard people call them "psychedelic orchestra metal", "like Neurosis on speed", and "prog sludge". I'm not sure any of them are totally accurate, but what i do know is that they make beautiful soundscapes. On a couple occasions they've moved me to tears. They're both beautiful and crushing.

Honorable Mentions include:
Callous - Fucking Useless
Dead Pressure - Dead Side Story Vol 1
Reivers/Whitehorse split
The Wizar'd - Ancient Tome Of Arcane Knowledge

Sunday, December 8, 2013

State of the blog address 2014

After a long LONG break Scattered Thoughts is back. In the time I was gone I moved across town and started a business. I decided to put this on the back burner for a while and let it sit slow and low in my mind while I get my life in order. Now that I'm in a comfortable groove I have some time to spend on the blog. Coming sooner than later look for a top 10 of sorts. I think most of those lists are pretentious and half the time the complier is just kissing ass. Expect records that actually deserve your attention despite their popularity (or lack thereof). I also have asked a few people to write some pieces that will be featured in column of rotating guest authors. I will still have some downloads available, but the focus is mainly going to be to bring bands to your attention that deserve it. If you're interested in writing something get ahold of us and we'll see what we can work out.

Friday, February 17, 2012

Bobby Joe Ebola & The Children MacNuggits

Bobby Joe Ebola & The Children MacNuggits started in 1995 in Pinole, Ca. The core of the band are members Corbett Redford (singer) and Dan Abbott (guitar). They play folk, folk punk, or satire rock depending on who you talk to. All you need to know is that they are funny, sometimes irreverent, and just flat out good. I've included their LP Carmelita Sings!: Visions Of A Rock Apocalypse put out in 2000 on their own label S.P.A.M. Records.

Bobby Joe has been busy recently putting out an EP titled Freaky Baby, an LP titled F, and recording videos for every song on F for a DVD companion to the record. They cuurently have a kickstarter page where they are trying to raise money to buy a reliable tour van. Check out the link HERE and help them out. If you can't donate please at least pass the link on to anyone you think might like these guys. Bleow you'll find their most recent video off the LP F.

Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Share The Love 3

Its Valentines Day... a day of love right? So, we thought we'd share some love with you.

Tankcrimes has some free downloads you should check out, including their sampler titled "Life Is Shit, Take One" You can check that out HERE

Matt from the band Everyone Everywhere has a new band called Hurry. Hurry would appeal to fans of Lemonheads, Yo La Tengo, Dinosaur Jr, ect. They just recorded a new LP and are currently looking for someone to release it. You can check out their bandcamp site and stream the LP as well as download a free sampler HERE

I'm sure you've heard of kickstarter. There are 2 bands on there that a worthy of your attention. Both are trying to raise money to buy a reliable tour van. The first is Bobby Joe Ebola & The Children MacNuggits, and the other is Ghoul.

Speaking of Ghoul, Dan Hashthrash recorded the video for their kickstarter, and also does the awesome video site Kill That Cat. Go check out some videos and tell Dan what a great job he's doing.

Philadelphia hardcore band Snake Road has just signed to Speedowax Records. They are now labelmates with Down To Nothing, Melt Banana, The Ataris, Narcosis, among others. Congratulations fellas, it's about time you got the recognition you've worked hard for.

Sunday, February 12, 2012

The Damage Done

The Damage Done was a hardcore band from California from 2001-2003. I did this interview with their singer Kyle in August of 2003 for a zine I was working on. Long story short none of the other bands got back to me with their interviews, and the 2 friends I tasked with reviews flaked on me as well, so I decided to not do the zine. The band ended up breaking shortly after that. After their last show Kyle and I were talking and decided to update the interview a bit and then submit it to Maximum Rock N Roll who ran the story in the March 2004 issue #250.

The Damage Done wasn't the best hardcore band, but they had substance. They walked the walk, and showed everyone what integrity is.

ST: Ok lets start from the first practice. Give me a little history about how the band started, and did yu think you'd make it this far?
KW: Well, The Damage Done really started in spring of 2001 in the small college town of San Luis Obispo, CA with me and Nick (our original guitarist) just wanting to start a band that could get out there, have some fun, and really have something to say. There was this kid Dave that was moving in next door to a friend of ours, and we started hanging out and found out he played bass, so we recruited him and this other guy Ryan to play drums. Things just never really came together with Ryan, and Dave had just started learning to play drums. So it quickly become Nick on guitar, Dave on drums, me singing, and we finally talked our friend Chris into playing bass (he'd played bass when he was a kid and stuff, but felt like he wasn't really capable of playing in a band and shit. He was wrong. He's done great.). Things started moving along nicely until summer hit... Nick went to Europe, I moved to the SF Bay Area for an internship. Everything was on hold... While I was working in the Bay Area, I was living with our friend James and his parents. He had played guitar a bit when he was younger and he started talking about possibly joining TDD as a second guitarist. When Nick came back from Europe and school picked up again, we started practicing and James fit right into the fold. That's when everything REALLY came together. We recorded a demo and played our first show in October of 2001
. We spent that whole winter writing for our next record, the 8 song "Never Wash Away" EP. We recorded that in May of 2002 and promptly went out on an coast tour for 10 days in June of 2002. We had a great time hanging out and seeing some new things, but the actual shows on the tour went pretty rough, and on the plane ride home from tour, Nick quit the band because his heart just wasn't in it anymore. ...I had just graduated college, so after we got home from tour, I went off to Europe for the summer. In Europe, I met up with a guy named Giampaolo Bilia, someone who I'd traded records with for years. We talked a bit about The Damage Done and we decided that he and his friend Dario would like to work together to put out something by TDD on the Italian label, Goodwill Records. Once I got home from Europe, I moved up to the SF Bay Area, creating a long distance sort of thing with this band (San Luis Obispo is 4 hours south of SF). We sorted everything out and figured out that we would do a 5 song 7" on Western Front Records, a 3 song split 7" with a band called DAY OF THE DEAD from Portugal on Goodwill Records in I
taly, and then release all 8 songs on a CDEP with Western Front. In the meantime, we had some lineup changes - we needed another guitarist, and after looking for a new one, we decided to move Dave from drums to guitar, and find a new drummer. We picked up my friend Justin, who I've known since elementary school, to play drums. He played in a great band called Conscientious Objector from Northern California that broke up way before their time. Anyways, there were countless delays with all of the records, and shit got kind of messed up. We played a record release show on November 23rd, 2002 for the Never Wash Away
7", then the split 7" came out in February, and the CD didn't come out until June of 2003. During all of this time, Justin and I (living in the bay area) were driving down to San Luis Obispo almost every other weekend to practice and/or play shows, and we pushed pretty hard at
that. I think that's when we really started to get a little burnt out and realize that this long distance thing was pretty hard on us. We managed to write 5 new songs during this period, and we were planning to write a full length and record it in the fall. But around May of 2003, we all sat down and had a talk and realized that with Dave and Chris going into their last year of college, and with James re-locating to the Bay Area, shit was going to be too difficult. We decided to call it quits, but keep it kind of quiet and just play Sink With Cali and Che Fests during the summer. In August, we went in with a friend and recorded those last 5 songs we wrote and released it as our final release "City Of Hope".... You asked me if we're proud of how far we've come? Fuck yeah I am, man. We started this band as a group of friends, 3 of which were learning their instruments as we fucking went along. Shit man, we didn't even know what we were doing. We had no ex-members-of hype, nothing like that at all. We just worked our asses off, and I think that last 5 song record we did is a really good hardcore record. The other records, they're pretty sub-par, pretty average hardcore... But I think the last record is something to be really proud of, especially since we just went in and recorded it for like $300 and in one day. We just wanted something for people to remember us by, to see how much we've grown, you know?

ST: Are you in
volved in anything else besides the Damage Done? bands/zines/whatever
KW: Yeah, me and my best friend, Zach Harlan, just started a label called RIVAL RECORDS. With this label, we want to try and give more of a voice to good bands out there that aren't hyped, don't have ex-members-of... Good bands that somehow get overlooked because they aren't what's "cool" or whatever. Of course I'm not saying we won't be putting things out that have ex-members and all that, but what I'm saying is that we are not doing this label to "get big" or make money or any stupid shit like that. We're doing this label because I think hardcore is moving more and more from its DIY roots and I feel like good kids are slipping through the cracks because they don't wear the right kind of running shoes or cargo shorts. You know what I mean? Anyways, our first three releases are available NOW! The first is a 5 song CDEP by PHYSICAL CHALLENGE (from Portland, Oregon), entitled "Some Still Care." The Damage Done played with them in Portland on our last trip to Seattle back in March, and they really blew me away. They're just good kids, playing good hardcore. Zach and I both agree that musically and vocally it's sort of Striking Distance meets Stay Gold. It's always hard to describe a band's sound real easily, but I think that most people could agree with that comparison. If anyone's interested in hearing a song, you can go to www.RivalRecords.NET (be careful, because is some defunct R&B label). The title track of the record is up there in MP3 format, along with ordering information. It's $6 postage paid ($5 at shows). Seriously, if anyone out here has a few extra bucks or a few extra seconds, at least check out the MP3 and give them a chance. They're a hard working band that deserves to be heard. Our other 2 releases - Rival #002 the debut 10 song CD from the SF Bay Area's TIME FOR LIVING. It looks and sounds really awesome... Mix the strength of NYHC style hardcore like Madball or Killing Time with the heart of modern bands like Modern Life Is War and you've got Time For Living. I'm so psyched on this band, both as an individuals and as a band, and it's great to get to work with them. Check them out at one of their local shows and
pick up their record. We also put out The Damage Done final recording entitled "City Of Hope". It's the 5 song CDEP I was talking about before. We also have a few new releases planned for this winter - watch out for a 7" by Seattle's Rosary + some more. So yeah, this stuff is keeping me pretty busy lately - check it out at www.RivalRecords.NET.

ST: What was your motivation to start the band, and what continues to motivate you?
KW: Ok, as for THE DAMAGE DONE... We started this band just as a tight group of friends that wanted to make some music together. As for me personally, I had a goal with this band to get out there and actually try to SAY SOMETHING. I feel like these days in hardcore it's OK to
just try and be the hardest, or the fastest or the catchiest, and no one seems to give two shits about what's actually in the lyrics, as long as they sound good with the music. And there's a fine line there, and I've struggled with that because I want to fit a certain amount of content in the songs, but at the same time, the vocals have to fit everything else, just like the guitar has to fit the drums, etc etc. But anyways, I've realized all along that nearly EVERYTHING has been said in one form or another in the past, but I do feel like some things aren't said enough, and some things can be said differently. Maybe I can't say it better or even as well as someone else, but every person has their own experiences and should be able to add something to a topic without just re-hashing someone else's thought. And so far, I think this band has done a pretty good job of not being cookie-cutter in what we are about. We don't have one particular agenda, we don't have any cheesy slogans or anything like that, we're just a hardcore band that really doesn't give a shit about classifications or what clothes you should wear or anything like that. I guess what I'm trying to say is: we started this band to be a fucking hardcore punk band that has something to say, plain and simple. We didn't get together and go "ok, let's start a youth crew band", or "dude, we need to play THIS kind of music" or anything like that. Unfortunately, I think we sometimes get categorized into one genre of hardcore or another and because of that, kids don't give us the time of day, but I wouldn't say that we're just your typical ANY type of band... We're kind of all over the place... (which can be both good AND bad. haha.) As for what motivates me to keep moving on in this band, well.... This band is breaking up, and our last show is at 924 Gilman St on October 4th, but that has nothing to do with what does or doesn't motivate me. I'm still motivated by the energy, the sincerity, the passion, and the anger that is embodied by hardcore and most likely will be for a very very very long time. A lot of people try to say that it's time to throw in the towel, that things are fucked and hardcore is completely "lost" at this point, but when I see certain kids out there at shows that have that fucking "look in their eye" (and Dave, I know you know the look that i'm talking about), I know that this shit isn't dead. There's just certain people out there that won't let it die. People that see through all the shit, people frustrated as fuck with how the world is turning out, people who are just plain angry and/or depressed, and peope who want to make things fucking better. Those are the real deal hardcore punk kids,
those are the kids I surround myself with, those are the kids that motivate me, and THOSE are the kids that I look up to, no matter if they're 15 years old or 35 years old.

ST: How has being in the band affected you? good or bad.
KW: I think this band has taught me a lot about how things in hardcore really "work." It's taught me a lot of BAD things about how there are some really shitty people out there that play in some really good bands. It's taught me that there are a lot of bad things that happen behind the closed doors in hardcore, dealing with money, record labels, getting on certain shows, kissing ass, etc. But it's also taught me some really valuable things about what it takes to keep this thing moving, to be successful enough to put on shows, to do ban
ds, to do zines, what it takes to make these things EXIST. I don't mean "successful" as in "make money", please dont mis-understand. But once you've done a band, a label, a zine, whatever, for a few years, you start to figure out just how to do things cheaply and efficiently so that you can actually make things happen and keep things moving along. I mean, yeah, it's DIY, but you gotta know what you're doing or one of two things will happen: 1. you'll have this great band or zine out there, but NO ONE WILL KNOW ABOUT IT, or 2. you'll work your ass off putting all this positive energy into something and get burnt out because it just kind of sucked the life out of you. Basically, I've just learned a TON of things doing this band for about 2 and a half years now, and it's going to help me out a lot with doing Rival Records and putting shows and things like that.

ST: Are there any common themes to your lyrics?
KW: That's kind of a hard question. When we started this band, we definitely wanted to say something relevent, to have a fucking MESSAGE. ...Bu
t definitely NOT one particular message or "agenda" or any shit like that. What I mean is, even though every member of this band is straight edge, we didn't want to be a "straightedge" band, or be a band that is all about one particular topic you know? I just wanted to be able to write songs that were revelant to both punk rock and the world today, and have people be able to relate to some shit and hopefully make them think a lilttle. Writing lyrics is hard man, because everything's pretty much been said before. But what makes them unique is the personal experiences you bring to the table, to actually fucking say something that maybe someone hasn't heard before... Like I everyone else involved in punk rock (for the most part), I've had some fucked up shit happen in my life, that's why I'm part of this punk community. Some people haven't experienced the exact same things I have in the exact same why I have. Some people aren't as angry about a particular thing that I'm angry about, and maybe they SHOULD be... Maybe some people could read some lyrics and go "shit, i never really thought about it exactly in those terms." That's what makes personal experience and communication so important with lyrics. Take a topic that you care about, and fucking add something to it, don't just regergatate the "buzz word" hardcore topics. I know that's what separtes punk rock for me from other genres of music.. The intensity, the aggressiveness, the fact that it's thought-provoking. So anyways, I woudln't say I have one particular "theme" in my lyrics, besides the fact that this world is FUCKED and you can either sit around and feel overwhelmed and depressed about that, or you can keep your fucking chin up go out and try to make a positive impact on the people and things around you. The stuff I write about ranges from growing up in a broken home and trying to raise younger siblings on your own, to dealing with the loss of people you love to cancer, to being disheartened and angered by the rat-race and money grubbing world where everything is measaured by "net worth". Basically, I'd prefer to write about relevent social issues rather than write so many songs about "hardcore" related stuff. I have a few songs about the "scene" and shit like that (the song "STAND" for example), but I feel like I've used those one or two "scene" songs to get some shit of my chest and say some things that needed to be said, so i don't feel the need to continually write about it. Some people do that a lot, and do it well, so there's a place for that, certainly. But if we're in this little sub-culture where all we do is discuss "scene" issues, how are we really going to make any REAL sort of changes inside ourselves and those around us? Yeah, it's easy to say one person can't change the world. But fuck all that, every person "changes the world" each day by simply getting out of bed in the morning, or driving down the highway... So you can either choose to have the aggregate of all your changes make a change for the BETTER, or you can have those changes make a change for the WORSE. ...Your choice. Personally, I'd at least rather take the 50-100 people I interact with on a weekly basis and try to help make their lives better, you know? It just takes a little thought....

ST: It seems like record collecting is getting pretty crazy these days. Its not uncommon for people to own 5 of the same record because of different colors/covers. What are your thoughts on this.
KW: Honestly, my thoughts on this are sort of mixed: on one hand, who the fuck am I to tell someone how to spend their money, right? I mean, seriously, if a record is worth $100 to a kid because it's his favorite band EVER and that band got him through some tough times and there's just a lot of sentimental value involved, then who am I to tell him that record isn't worth $100? But by the same token, when people are buying records for $50 to $100 to try and gain some sort of bullshit status, that is just plain stupid and I doubt those kids will be around for long. As for owning 5 copies of one record - hey man, I'm a huge vinyl collector and I have 5 versions of LOTS of different records... But you know what? I really like those records and I don't brag about my stupid vinyl collection (honestly, how cheesy is it to brag about some nerdy shit like a slab of vinyl anyways?) I guess I kind of sum it up like this: a record is worth whatever the person paying for it says that it is. YOU should decide how much a record is worth to you. Don't let someone tell you "this is a $50 record", because if you don't think it is, then you shouldn't be buying it, right? And if you're buying a record for a shitload of money, you may want to ask yourself "well, a typical meal costs me like $5. If I pay $100 for this, that's 20 meals. Is this rrecord worth 20 meals to me?". If it is, then fucking buy it! If it's not, and you're just buying it because it's a "good deal" or because you think it'll make you look cool, then don't do it... Go spend your money on 20 brand new 7"s of great new bands, you know?

ST: You've recently announced that the Damage Done is breaking up. Do you guys have anything planned for the future or are things still up in the air?
KW: Our guitarist, James, is currently playing guitar in Lights Out. They're a great new band from the SF Bay Area that sound like Side By Side. Get into it. It's good stuff. Connor of the Lab Rats sings and he's a great front man. I love that dude, he's like my little brother. As for me, I'm doing Rival Records. Our other members don't have anything planned for the definite future, but I can tell you for sure that our other guitarist, Dave, is a great musician and will most definitely be doing new bands. They may or may not be hardcore bands, cuz the guy is just plain talented and can do whatever he wants, but there will be new bands, believe me. I told Chris he better sing in a band. That dude NEEDS to sing in a band, haha. And our drummer, Justin, I really hope he does another band, even if it's not a hardcore band, because he's a really solid drummer and it's shame for all that talent to go to waste.

ST: One thing I noticed about the Damage Done is that you did a split 7" with a band from Portugal. How did that come together?, and are you concious of the worldwide hardcore scene?
KW: Oops, I guess I kind of answered that before in the "history of the band" question. To elaborate a bit, Dario Adamic put out a record for Day Of The Dead on Goodwill Records a while back. Dario is good friends with Giampaolo Bilia, a guy I've known for years through record collecting. I met Paolo when I went to Italy, he showed me around Rome and shit, and we talked about The Damage Done's latest recording and how it didn't all quite have a home yet. Paolo and Dario decided they'd do a release on Goodwill with Dario's band, Day Of The Dead, and The Damage Done. I think it's awesome we got to put out a record in Europe, and I think it would have been really fucking awesome to be able to tour over there. It never happened, but I think we would have been able to do it successfully... As for the worldwide hardcore scene, I'd have to say that I wish I was a LOT more conscious of what's going on elsewhere. I try to keep up on things, but it's hard sometimes to know all the good shit that's out there. It sucks though, because U.S. kids are so stuck up about international hardcore, and won't give it a chance at all. The irony is, so many of the kids in Europe or so much more sincere and dont' take the shit they have for granted. You can tell that they REALLY love hardcore and will go way out of there way to make sure they stay involved. I mean, shit, I get mail order for The Damage Done stuff to random countries where it costs me like $18 to ship a Hoodie to them. They pay $25 + $18 for a hoodie from some small band from the w
est coast simply because they really like our music. That's a rare kind of kid that is becoming increasingly rare in the U.S. Shit, it's hard to get people to throw $4 in the mail for a 7" these days! So I really appreciate the support that both my band, and now my record label, has gotten from the international hardcore scene.

ST: What do you think of the scene. Both locally and as a whole. good or bad.
KW: Every scene has its highs and its lows. The SF Bay Area's best asset is its sense of family. Seriously man, a lot of the kids around here are really tight and I really dig that about this area. I think that we take care of each other and when I say that, I don't mean that in some cheesy hardcore "unity' sort of way. I really mean that if I was in some trouble, I think that there are dudes around here that would really be there for me, no matter what. Unfortunately, in the last 2 years things have started to segregate a lot, and that sucks because we just don't have a big enough scene to support like 6 different "sub-scenes". But as a whole, i think that the bay area does a VERY good job of shutting out the stupid "cool-guy" bullshit attitudes about what bands are cool to like and which band is the most hyped, and I think most kids genuinely like what they like and are vocal about that. I mean, I just feel like in other scenes around the country, there's more of a groupthink kind of mentality where you like a particular band because they're on a particular label and playing a particular kind of hardcore. And yes, we have that to an extent, but I think it's not nearly as bad as other places in the country
and I think that is a real asset to us. The only "bad" thing that I can say about our scene is kind of the flip side of what I just said. Because the kids here tend to just sort of close their eyes to what's hyped or what's cool out there, i think that sometimes the bay area doesn't have much of a "national hardcore" type outlook. And I think that hurts both our local bands, and the touring bands that come through here. I just think that the kids here sometimes overlook a lot of bands that are out here, and so when they come through, the shows are really small. And for local bands, the same thing happens - they dont' get out there and tour and make contacts around the country, and so they just play the same SF Bay Area shows for 2 or 3 years and finally break up, you know? But, I do think that the good definitely outweigh the bad and I'd rather have a more naive type of scene anyday than some jaded old fucks telling me what is cool and what isn't currently cool in hardcore.

ST: Do you have a favorite show you've played with the damage done? If so who played/where was the show.
KW: I have 2 favorite show
s. They were about one month apart. One was November, 23rd, 2002 - our record release show for the Never
Wash Away 7". We played with all of our friends at Gilman - Embrace The End, Scissorhands, Allegiance, and For The Crown. It was an all local hardcore night at Gilman and over 300 people paid to get in. It was the first time I really felt at "home" somewhere because The Damage Done is from all over the state of California, but that night, I really realized that the Bay was our home. The vibe of the show couldn't have been better, and every band just had a great set and an all around good time. The second best show was in December of 2002 at SF State. It was a show I booked for Champion and Embrace Today when they were touring. I put my two favorite local bands on it - Allegiance and Time For Living. Again, it was the vibe that made the show so cool. There were really only like 100 kids there, but I don't know that I have ever felt that way about a show before. It was both friendly and kind of calm, but at the same time so sincere and pationate. Just like a big party with a good group of friends, you know? I just had a really good time. But honestly, I think that our last show on October 4th is going to top both of those. Again, all of our friends are playing. This time it's Lights Out, Allegiance, For The Crown (their last show too!), and Champion. I can't wait.

ST: Now that the band has come to an end, what is the most important thing you hope for people to get out of the damage done?
KW: For kids that are trying to start bands, I hope The Damage Done can help offer some encouragement. We were just a bunch of kids, who didn't really know what we were doing, and we got together and made some shit that was pretty special for a few hundred kids. ANYONE can start a band, do a label, do a zine - it just takes some sincerity, some honesty, and a TON of hard work. If you love what you're doing, and you're sincere, you'll probabyl come out on top. And for kids that pick up The Damage Done records in the upcoming years, or even those kids that picked up our records while we were around, I hope that some people out there can find some things to be comforting and/or thought-provoking. Sometimes just realizing that someone else out there has been through the same shit as you can be a real help. It makes you feel a little bit normal in a world where I'm feeling increasingly out of step with the rest of the world, you know? I hope that the lyrics put forth in The Damage Done songs will make people realize 2 things: 1. you don't have to always talk about the same old "hardcore" things in your songs, and 2. some of the best songs can be songs where you're talking about a familiar issue, but you're adding your own experiences to it and therefore making that topic more relevent.

ST: Any final comments? How can people get ahold of you?
KW: SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL HARDCORE PUNK SCENE. Ignore fashion, it's a non-factor. Don't categorize bands based on how they LOOK. Get into bands based on what they stand for, what you like about their music, not what they look like on stage. Go to all different kinds of shows, check out bands from ALLEGIANCE, LIGHTS OUT, CROSS THE LINE and TIME FOR LIVING, to bands like LIFE LONG TRAGEDY, ALL BETS OFF, and EMBRACE THE END, to bands like WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? (RIP), SCHOLASTIC DETH (RIP), THE LAB RATS (RIP). If you think that those bands aren't hardcore, that they're "just punk bands" or some stupid shit like that, you need to do some research and re-think what hardcore really is. Punk is hardcore and hardcore IS punk. period. People can get ahold of me at Check out www.RivalRecords.NET. Thanks so much for the interview Dave, you rule.

Since this interview Rival Records had some problems with the name, so they changed it to Rivalry Records. You can reach them at

Kyle also wrote about the Damage Done on his blog including a bunch of pictures and videos of their first and last shows. You can see that at
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